Hello Serene, I would ask him the ultimate question that wiill lead to hundreds of others on his own. And that is: I understand that 1914 is a pivital date to the Watchtower. How do you arrive at that date?? ( Then after he explains how 607 is used to get to that date, you could say,) I have heard that there is a big discrepancy between the Watchtowers date of 607, and secular history. Can you prove 607 without using their literature?? When you ask him that, and if he trys, he will see you can't do it. And it will probably bother him enough that he will begin to question EVERYTHING!!! That has been our experience. I wish you well. L.L.
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What Questions Should I Ask?
by Serene ini am gearing up to have "the big discussion" with my boyfriend about his witness beliefs... and i was wondering what are some good questions to ask him?
at this point, im not bent on "proving him wrong" as i think that is a bad attitude to take into a discussion of this nature, but i do plan on asking him to make sense of some of the more questionable practices of the jws... (dubs?
the questions i have so far are .
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I've got one too! Why did Jehovah say it was ok to give the alien foreigner meat with blood in it, and it was even ok to sell it to them!???
"You must not eat any body already dead. To the alien resident who is inside your gates you may give it, and he must eat it; or there may be a selling of it to a foreigner, because you are a holy people to Jehovah your God." (Deuteronomy 14:21)
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four years of liberty
by south african beef inhi everyone this is my first post!
got d'fed 4 years ago for liking/loving another ministerial servants wife.
happily married to her now!
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Welcome S.A.B. and Bubbles!
We look forward to hearing more form you!
L.L.
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Everybody welcome Anneshirley new member!
by mkr32208 inmy wife finally joined!
her user name is anneshirley!
everyone make her feel welcome please!
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Welcome ANNESHIRLEY!!!
Glad you finally decided to join us! There are alot of us that will benifit from your being here. We all need each other! We have been through and are going through many of the same things. You will make many friends here and you will get alot of support!
Sincerely,
L.L.
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Are They Watching Us??
by Lady Liberty inafter reading iron claws recent post, "i lost it!!!!!!!!!!!
", it made me wonder if possibly the elders asign someone from each hall to watch sites like this to see if there are anyone posting that tell experiences they may recognize.
i find it strange that the c.o.
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If you want to make them sweat I suggest you be ever so careful about who you tell about this site or others like it. Yes freedomlover, you cannot be TOO careful!! My Gandmother didn't even have a clue we weren't going to meetings anymore, so she says anyway! I find that hard to believe, although we are not in the same hall, news of that sort goes like wildfire as you know. She told me that when the C.O. asked her, she said she knew nothing, but is sure we would never visit any "apostate" sites. The rest of the family and friends that know our issues don't have a clue this site exists. At least not through us they don't! Your right, I feel its a real good possibility that they are gathering their facts. But I have gathered more of my own! I am anxious for their return!
L.L.
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My Story
by XJW4EVR ini was adopted into a jw family in southern california.
my birth mother gave me up after 6 months (the terms mom & dad refer to my adoptive/real parents).
she gave me up due to the fact that she already had a three year old boy, and back in the late sixties it was not as socially acceptable to be a single mother.
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Dear xjw4evr,
Hang in there! Your with friends. We are glad your here, and are looking forward to hearing more of your story as you are able to.
Sincerely,
L.L.
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Are They Watching Us??
by Lady Liberty inafter reading iron claws recent post, "i lost it!!!!!!!!!!!
", it made me wonder if possibly the elders asign someone from each hall to watch sites like this to see if there are anyone posting that tell experiences they may recognize.
i find it strange that the c.o.
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Thanks you guys! Its not like I'm not ready for the axe, but I have been waiting for 6 weeks now for a reply back from them on our 607 questions. When we "GET IT" I want it to be because they had to get rid of us, that they couldn't answer our questions, and because we wouldn't let them squirm out of that subject, that we knew TOO much. I think my family and friends that are still in, that know our issue, will have questions themselves if they see that happen! However, if I was D'FD because of being seen eating with a disfellowshipped person, or being here, then they wouldn't give my Dfing a second thought and they would support it.
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Are They Watching Us??
by Lady Liberty inafter reading iron claws recent post, "i lost it!!!!!!!!!!!
", it made me wonder if possibly the elders asign someone from each hall to watch sites like this to see if there are anyone posting that tell experiences they may recognize.
i find it strange that the c.o.
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After reading Iron Claws recent post, "I Lost It!!!!!!!!!!!", it made me wonder if possibly the elders asign someone from each hall to watch sites like this to see if there are anyone posting that tell experiences they may recognize. What do you all think?? I find it strange that the C.O. just asked my active Grandmother if she knew if my husband and I were visiting any "apostate websites". And then in Iron Claws experience, that's the same question he said they posed to him! Is there anyway for them to find out who you are besides just recognizing your experience?? Also, how many of you have been asked that same question by the elders?? Any input would be helpful, thank you!!
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Valuable Comment on Documentary re: Babylonian Records
by Lady Liberty inwas watching a awesome program last night called solar max on cable.
it is a imax film about the solar system.
they made a comment that i quickly wrote down, "the babylonians records are so accurate that they use them today to correct computer programs.
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Thats a good idea!
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Valuable Comment on Documentary re: Babylonian Records
by Lady Liberty inwas watching a awesome program last night called solar max on cable.
it is a imax film about the solar system.
they made a comment that i quickly wrote down, "the babylonians records are so accurate that they use them today to correct computer programs.
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I wonder if this is available on "on demand" our cable co. has this feature. Maybe I could burn it to dvd and show to my family? Let us know if you find out if it is. I'm sure others would appreciate knowing about it. Thanks. L.L.